http://bbpress.org/forums/ bbPress support forums User Favorites: bensig en Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:21:04 +0000 http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-17539 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:50:54 +0000 _ck_ 17539@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I have now added the ability to do inline image viewing starting with version 0.1.5</p> <p>It's not completely finished but I know that ability was in demand so I'm making it available for testing right away. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15612 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:52:44 +0000 _ck_ 15612@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I agree with not doing the actions in the templates - that was a mistake WordPress did for awhile eh? The hooks can go inside <code>function edit_form</code> in the core, no?</p> <p>Just for clarification, because this one is important, <code>do_action(&#39;post_edit_form&#39;)</code> should go AFTER the <code>&lt;/form&gt;</code> is closed. </p> <p><code>do_action(&#39;pre_edit_form&#39;)</code> should be before the <code>&lt;form</code><br /> and <code>do_action(&#39;edit_form&#39;)</code> should be inside the form.</p> <p>If all the post_form's are actions, so should be the edit_forms. I don't think any are filters, wouldn't make sense...?</p> <p>This will help other plugins like my Signatures too.<br /> Less template edits needed, makes it easier for users.</p> <p>Of course I still have to support some 0.8.3 people so it's going to be awhile before this solves all problems but at least newer installs can benefit. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15599 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:07:59 +0000 sambauers 15599@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I recall a ticket where mdawaffe was hesitant to put hooks in the templates.</p> <p>Would you require hooks in the templates? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15591 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:30:02 +0000 _ck_ 15591@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>The ticket was months back, I'd have to search.<br /> It's fairly simple in theory though, why not mimic the existing hook structure for new posts to match editing existing posts:<br /> <code>pre_post_form</code> -&gt; <code>pre_edit_form</code><br /> <code>post_form</code> -&gt; <code>edit_form</code><br /> <code>post_post_form</code> -&gt; <code>post_edit_form</code> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15581 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:29:13 +0000 sambauers 15581@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>@ _ck_</p> <p>Which ticket was he hook request in. I'll see if I can do something about it sooner rather than later.</p> <p>I'm also happy to do a new release 0.9.0.2 to get those changes more readily available for this plugin. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15561 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:17:00 +0000 _ck_ 15561@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>An early beta is now available for review:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15560 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:16:24 +0000 _ck_ 15560@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>An early beta is now available for review:<br /> <a href="http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15550 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:08:40 +0000 _ck_ 15550@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p><em>fel64: No, there's been hooks for the post form for as long as I can remember.</em></p> <p>Unfortunately that's only for new posts. For editing existing posts there is absolutely no way to affect the template without editing it. There's no hooks for edit_form() or any of it's sub-functions or the template loader (the loader does the include AFTER the hook so nothing can be placed afterwards. I requested some hooks many month ago but they may have been missed (or ignored). This plugin will require (one, simple) edit of the <code>edit-post.php</code> template.</p> <p>(In theory it could be done via the bb_get_footer but that's really messy and the footer hook is AFTER the footer has been rendered). </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads/page/2#post-15548 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:37:36 +0000 _ck_ 15548@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Yes there used to be a limit with readfile/passthru but supposedly fixed in newer PHP and even the old limit was 2mb which is fairly high anyway. Also there is some debate that flushing output and making sure compression/output buffers are turned off avoids the limit. We'll find out as more people test it.</p> <p>I'll have a version up for testing in 12 hours or so. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15547 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:13:37 +0000 sambauers 15547@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Oh, and the file size may be limited by the memory limits in PHP that way too. Not the file upload size limits, but the memory allocation limits set in the PHP INI file.</p> <p>This stuff will come out in the wash once it is released and in the hands of users though. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15545 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:10:47 +0000 sambauers 15545@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Piping things through PHP will be slower (but potentially more secure). </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15539 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:44:55 +0000 _ck_ 15539@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Progress is excellent, way ahead of schedule, should have a public demo Saturday night (24 hours or so).</p> <p>Working on a auto-thumbnail method now for image uploads.</p> <p>I've come up with some extra security features like the files are not directly publicly accessible (stored in non-webroot directory) so they never get fed through the parsers and cannot be executed (ie. .php .html .asp) even if someone manages to trick a file extension or mime somehow. The only downside to this is that the files must be "dumped" through PHP (readfile) which will keep the PHP session open longer but unless you are serving multi-megabyte files at high traffic rates, this should not be a big issue (optionally you can make the files directly accessible off the web if this is critical issue). </p> <p>As a bonus the above method makes hotlinking impossible as you can set attachments as accessible to logged-in members only. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15535 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:46:45 +0000 sambauers 15535@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>@ _ck_</p> <p>I think all languages place the file extension on the right of the filename. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15530 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:11:36 +0000 Beer 15530@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I'm glad the donation idea is working. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15525 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:56:38 +0000 HowToGeek 15525@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I donated towards this plugin as well. Very happy to see this being worked on!</p> <p>@Everybody: You can donate directly to _ck_ with this link:</p> <p><a href="http://amazon.com/paypage/P2FBORKDEFQIVM" rel="nofollow">http://amazon.com/paypage/P2FBORKDEFQIVM</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15521 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:21:19 +0000 _ck_ 15521@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Very early sneak preview:<br /> <a href="http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8615/bbattachmentspreviewpv0.png" rel="nofollow">http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8615/bbattachmentspreviewpv0.png</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15516 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:37:11 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15516@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Sorry to bump this thread again...<br /> Sambauer, my post was not directed to you and I respect a lot what you are doing and your attitude on the forum. It's the "then go for a wiki" remark that made me react.<br /> I'm very happy and thankful that _ck_ got down to the writing of this plugin. Keep on the good works, it's a great soft you're all working on :) </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15515 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:05:26 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15515@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>_ck_ you are wonderful :) </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15512 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:10:58 +0000 _ck_ 15512@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I've got a skeleton prototype working already but I have an important question:</p> <p>In Right-To-Left languages, filenames are still left-to-right, correct? ie. it's never gif.filename, always filename.gif ?</p> <p>Sounds silly but you never know... I mean how does Chinese or Japanese handle filenames? </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15511 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:33:04 +0000 sambauers 15511@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>It was USD$50</p> <p>:)</p> <p>I say just get it up to a usable state and out the door. Then we can all work on making it better over time. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15510 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:46:37 +0000 _ck_ 15510@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Whoa, $50 AUS? That's like half a million US $ right now! I could buy 3, maybe even 4 gallons of gas (if I owned a car) LOL! :D</p> <p>Seriously though, many thanks, that's a massive donation. Now I feel guilty like I have to make this an amazing plugin. Hope I can live up to it. I should have an early alpha for review Sunday or Monday night... </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15504 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:43:38 +0000 sambauers 15504@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15503">I'm putting my money where my mouth is</a>, and donated $50 to _ck_ towards the development of this plugin.</p> <p>Thanks for starting this _ck_, it will be a welcome plugin addition. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15503 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:32:03 +0000 sambauers 15503@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I'm sure that many people have fine justifications for wanting file attachments. It just seems to be coincidence that those people aren't the ones capable of writing it. No one is telling anyone that their need for it is "wrong".</p> <p>Can I suggest that those who want it somehow co-ordinate their efforts and - rather than pointlessly bumping threads like this all the time - you all work out how you can get it happening in a constructive fashion. There are many competent plugin developers around, perhaps you can pool financial resources and hire one to write the plugin. Perhaps if you are in a University you can co-opt a student with the necessary skills to write the plugin for you in exchange for credit. I'm sure that together you work out a creative solution to your problem.</p> <p>I would love to see this happen, but I don't think it will be me who writes it. Dealing with file uploads in web apps is hard and boring for me. I spent about 5 years of my life doing it, so whilst I am probably well qualified to take it on, I don't *want* to right now. It's not about some geek elitism. Clearly my want is greater than your collective powers of persuasion at this time.</p> <p><a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads">charlesstout's topic on this issue</a> has a much more positive spin to it, and you'll notice that _ck_ has jumped in to get something rolling (which is lucky for you guys, she knows what she's doing). I suggest that if _ck_ gets this happening you all go and <a href="http://bbshowcase.org/forums/">drop some money in her donation account</a> or at least send her a card. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15502 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:58:35 +0000 _ck_ 15502@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Alright, I'll start working on this.<br /> It won't be feature rich at start but I'll give you some basic functionality in a few days. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15491 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:52:57 +0000 Beer 15491@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>We could try to appeal to the mercy of whoever the current plug-in coders are. I've seen something at TextDrive where a group would donate some money into a pool for development purposes.</p> <p>I think it'd be great if they added the "Ideas" feature here at bbPress like they have for Wordpress also.<br /> <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/</a> </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads#post-15487 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:14:18 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15487@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Ok for a plug-in yeah.... </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15486 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:40:54 +0000 charliestout 15486@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I started a conversation about this very topic here: <a href="http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads" rel="nofollow">http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads</a></p> <p>I believe in both sides of this argument: </p> <p>1. Keep bbPress clean. Don't bloat.<br /> 2. Make bbPress extendible. Do create plugins for everything.</p> <p>That said, I'm all in favor of an image/attachment plugin. Definitely.</p> <p>To argue that there is not great desire for this simply because it has not been written is like trying to say "living on the moon sucks" just because we haven't figured out a way to do it yet. I'm sure living on the moon would totally rule ass. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15485 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:20:01 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15485@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Maybe it's because I'm not so knowledgeable about wikis, but I really wonder what you are talking about. I totally agree concerning the "simple, fast and elegant". phpBB is far too complicated for example. But gimme a break please. I don't need to be told what I need. Wordpress is great for news publication, it's understandable by my not so computer literate community and it even allows to attach documents to posts (albeit not to comments). Now I'm thinking about phase 2, which is the integration of a forum to the blog and the duplication of Wordpress posts in a dedicated sub-forum through the bbPost plugin. These guys are scientists who need to communicate AND exchange documents. bbPress appeals to me because of the Wordpress integration, BUT I need it to have attachment as a feature. And I don't have the skills to add this feature. I don't intend to be demanding. I have an idea what open source development can be. I just don't want some geek zealot to tell me that my need is wrong just because it breaks his ideal of how his software idol should be... </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15429 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:45:03 +0000 chrishajer 15429@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>Exchange of documents: use a wiki. </p> http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/priority-1-imagefile-attachments#post-15422 Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:51:17 +0000 gregory.dziedzic 15422@http://bbpress.org/forums/ <p>I need plugin too. Trying to switch from a mailing list based scientific community to a proper forum. Exchange of documents is a must. </p>