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MASSIVE thanks go out to nerrad and JJJ for this fix!
Seems to work just perfectly.
So JJ, do you think I now need to tick the box in the back end to assign a default level to new sign-ups, or does this patch dynamically assign the ‘member’ role to all new sign-ups too?
nerrad, that is fantastic, and thank you so much for sharing it.
So if this assigns roles to existing members, how do we deal with new sign-ups?
JJ, do you reckon this is a future-proof solution?
No worries JJ, I’ll wait for the docs.
So how do you envisage what the best way forward would be for site owners that use membership plugins?
Is there anything we can build into BBPress to enable the ‘Participant’ level being attributed to all users excpt admins or unless it’s changed otherwise?
I’m not quite sure how to move forward.
I could use a user role capability plugin, but is that not just complicating things?
Also, where does the ‘member’ label come from that I’m seeing for regular members? It’s not actually a role that is selectable in the backend.
‘Participant’ is as close as I can find to be suitable for normal members that have their role assigned by the S2 Member plugin I use for membership.
Are there any docs on the new dynamic user roles JJ?
Bloody hell, I have this now!
BBPress was just instantly marking these posts by this user as spam, even though they weren’t!
Is there an option somewhere that would have marked this user as spammer which would go away when their role is changed to Participant?
What’s really bizarre is, I have installed the user roles plugin just now and examined user capabilities in both the plugin menu and directly in the DB looking at the capability entry string.
The free user that can’t currently post, has the EXACT same capabilities as those free users who CAN post.
There are no differences, and yet this one user account that can’t post seems to be able to write a reply and submit it, the slug in the URL adapts as it should and increases the post number in the slug by one, but it then doesn’t show the post, and it doesn’t appear front or backend.
If I change their ‘Forum Role’ in the drop down at the bottom of their edit profile dashboard screen to ‘Participant’, then they CAN post normally.
I shouldn’t have to do this though.
Anyone have any kind of clue what else it could be?
Cheers Sam, I’ll check that out. I’ve not seen any documentation about this new system yet.
I’m guessing there is a good reason for it, but would be nice to turn it off and revert if it’s going to cause big issues with any site that has altered roles (of which there will be a high percentage).
Hey Sam, I use custom caps built straight nto S2member and just assign different caps all to various s2level1 packages, so only have FREE subscribers at level 0 and paid members at level 1.
The majority of the free subscribers can access and use forums in bbpress 2.2, but anyone with level 1 access hits a 404 regardless of accessing the forum directory or topics.
Bizarrely the forum tab on profiles of these level 1 members will show their threads.
Some free subscribers set at level 0 can access forums but can’t post. You can submit a reply but it doesn’t show front or backend, and yet trying to submit the same reply again straight after gives you the duplicate post error message although NOTHING got posted anyway.
What are the role editor plugins going to enable me to do?
I’ve never used them. Would love to get to the bottom of why some level 0 members can post and yet a user with an identical role can’t?
Assigning a forum role of ‘participant’ to the free members that for some reason cant post fixes the issue.
If everyone could be assigned a ‘participant’ role as default that might be the way forward with this?
Not quite sure where the role named ‘member’ is being assigned from to my free members in the forums, as it doesn’t seem to be selectable role in the drop down for forum role.
I have ‘Participant’ set as the default role which I think it was preset to in the forums options now.
I notice the tick box to assign this role to all new signups, but a box to assign it to existing members except admins would be cool.
I’m not sure what the best way is, but I’m guessing there will be an awful lot of sites breaking if they do this upgrade.
Would love to hear some suggestions.
Not to sound ungrateful though, I love BBPress. I’ll gladly help test everything on my staging site until we can work it out for everyone.
Okay and I’ve also got some weird things happening too:
- If a member signs up for a free account on my site, they are automatically assigned the regular WP ‘subscriber’ role. These members can use the forums normally, and when they now post, they have the word ‘member’ assigned under their avatar.
- If a user pays for membership and gets an S2 Member level, they can’t see any forums, they just get a 404.
Now if I go into these members profiles in the backend, i can assign their ‘forum role’ from the drop down to something like ‘Participant’.
They still keep their S2 level, but can now also use forums.
1. Why can’t we assign them as ‘members’ like normal FREE users who are assigned that tag. It doesn’t appear in the forum role drop down menu in the edit user screen.
2. Bizarrely I have a couple of accounts that although are FREE accounts with the usual WP ‘subscriber’ role assigned, they can’t actually post.
They can see the forums, type a response and post it, but it doesn’t appear anywhere.
Pretty bizarre. Would be cool to get a good explanation of how this new dynamic role process works.
Looks like this new role capabilities change is going to cause me some pretty big issues, wondered if you could advise.
I use S2Member on my site (probably the best and most supported membership plugin).
It creates S2 Member roles for paid members away from the standard roles in WP.
For standard subscribers the forums are accessible no problem, however for anyone with a paid S2Member role, they can’t even see the root index of the forums which is /forums.
It returns a 404.
I can’t ditch s2member as it is the heart of my site and controls access to everything.
There are thousands of sites out the using this, any advice on how we can make them play nicely?
Have you gone into the back end under settings___>forums and re-saved the options?
Might need a refresh!
Narrowed it down to a plugin that wouldn’t activate for some reason through bulk activation in the backend. It would only activate when you activated it manually on its own.
BB Press works perfectly, although I don’t see the old twenty ten drop down.
I use theme compat so it’s not an issue, but has that feature been dropped now?
Actually, this IS a plugin issue. Will report back soon.
Don’t know what this is caused by just yet, but after upgrading on my staging site when a logged in user tries to look at his profile, the tabs won’t load to go from ‘Profile’ to ‘Activity’ etc.
Looking at someone else’s profile loads just fine though, including the BBPress ‘forums’ tab and sub menus.
Have tried with all other plugins turned off but still get the same issue.
Nick, I’m sure the videos are actually controlled by WP.
Go into settings, then media and simply specify a max width. You should be good then!
I’m looking to implement BBPress 2.1, can I have a look at anyone’s install to see how it looks?
Thanks for the reply.
This isn’t just happening on my setup though, it’s happening over at http://www.testbp.org too.
If you get an account, sign in and favourite any topic, then click on favourites… it won’t show any topics or anything.
Same happens if you reply to or start a new forum topic. this doesn’t show up in the BP profile tab which is labelled ‘Forums’ in your profile.
I’m guessing it should, but no such luck so far.
Anyone using this with Buddypress and have a similar experience?
Awesome, will see what JJ says. This would be invaluable if it could be built into buddypress. I know a lot of clients who want to move away from the group forums in buddypress and just use sitewide BBpress 2.0 forums instead!
Wow, looks awesome! I need to do a conversion in buddypress from the old group forums to standalone BBpress 2.0.
Is the procedure the same as converting BBpress 1.0?
Would love to see an upgrader built into buddypress 1.5!
Jeez, I didn’t know that was ready! That sounds awesome! So does the importer use the old ‘group’ names as forums or just import all of the posts in one forum?
Sorry to ask so many questions, I’m totally new to the standalone version.
Ahh wow, cool, that looks great! I don’t have BB Press installed on my live site yet but will set up a test and have a look.
It would be awesome to place shortcodes on pages for stuff like this. Where you could perhaps show x number of latest topics etc.
Is there any news on an exporter by the way, to export old Buddypress groups/ forums into the new BB Press plugin.
I want to get rid of groups and just have some forums like on test-bp.org.
The group names would effectively become the main forum names and then the topics would appear in each forum.
Is that on the cards?